Don't just "survive" the goons, fight back, ***** on some killmails and thwart their nefarious plot. Put a couple fast locking ranged ships in the belt with you and one of two things will happen.

- they won't try to gank you.

I wasn't in a mack/hulk/orca...I was waiting to help kill those two cruisers. And yes, everyone could see me. Deterrence, Reagan style. Also, I'm having a lot of fun taunting goonies on forums, making them mad enough to start calling me bad names on an internet forum. It's amazing how quickly this actually happens.

Perhaps in this context "killing" actually means denying them a kill, making them die for nothing.

Yeah, it's about the same twisted logic that you use when you get an adrenaline rush attacking an industrial ship that has no turrets or launchers and is incapable of fighting back, and brag about a "kill mail" and even keep a "kill board". Logic can be funny that way.

Sure, you can keep griefing (let's not call it ganking, I'd like to reserve that word for low sec players who are far more creative than you) all you want regardless of your sec level. But for all that other stuff - like - moving goods to and from the market hubs, well, that's hard to do with -10. So you can choose to stay a null-bear forever where -10 doesn't matter, but you will always have to rely on someone else to move your stuff around for you for a long, long time. Like you said, it takes a lot of commitment. On a throwaway alt, who cares. But on a real char? Hmmm.

As for someone pointing out earlier a metaphor about being a hawk diving on its prey, I see the goon's current campaign as a mushroom sprouting on a turd. Please don't kid yourselves, there is nothing glorious or even hard about what you are doing. Even a 10 hour old character can do it...

Yeah, I mean since we're sharing pictures of empty belts and everything:

http://i.imgur.com/GfrCH.jpg


Oh wait, what?

But for all that other stuff - like - moving goods to and from the market hubs, well, that's hard to do with -10. So you can choose to stay a null-bear forever where -10 doesn't matter, but you will always have to rely on someone else to move your stuff around for you for a long, long time. Like you said, it takes a lot of commitment. On a throwaway alt, who cares. But on a real char? Hmmm.

And who collects the minerals to make those ships and the fuel to run the towers of the stations where they are made? Miners. This is the old blah blah I'm a piwate I am so much better than you argument. You play your way, I play mine. While you might like doing 15 minutes spurts of adrenaline, I like being able to do other stuff between cycles. But just the fact that the goons are able to squeeze the price of isotopes so easily underlines just how badly you need miners in the game. It's all very well now that everyone has huge stockpiles, but even goons are going to need oxygen isotopes eventually when the stockpiles start running low At best you are cutting your own throats. The entire economy is based on mining as the input. PVP is on the other side of the economy - the sink. You really can't have one without the other and expect some sort of balance, which is what an economy is.

Naw, if you want to see funny:

http://i.imgur.com/qtoo0.jpg

Ala is usually a pretty quiet system. Don't think I have ever seen so many neutrals here... they must all want to come shake my hand.